What happens when personal pain—ours or someone else’s—goes unhealed? Too often, it creates patterns of disconnection, fractured relationships, and cycles of disunity in the very spaces meant to be safe and life-giving.

In this episode, I sit down with Jennie Barry, Family and Marriage Director at The Square Church, for a powerful and deeply personal conversation about the role of pain in our relationships and how we can begin to heal.

We explore:

How pain shows up and quietly fuels disunity in families, churches, and communities

The subtle lies we believe about ourselves and others that keep those patterns in place

Practical and spiritual steps that can lead us toward reconciliation and wholeness

What transformation looks like when we choose truth, grace, and healing

You’ll also hear Jennie share about a free resource she created to help you replace identity-warping lies with the truth of Scripture. It’s a simple but powerful tool—and it’s linked below.

If you’re feeling stuck in a cycle of pain, this episode offers encouragement, clarity, and hope for the journey ahead.

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