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Have you ever had a conversation about race, religion, or politics – with someone who believes differently than you – go extremely well?

I’ve had a gazillion enriching conversations with those who’s understandings and feelings align with mine, but my track record with those that disagree with me on hard issues is pretty dismal.

Here’s the thing, I feel like God has called me into figuring out how to bring disagreeing people into a space to safely discuss hard but important things (oh dear Lord help me).

Not just discuss things, but really listen to each other in order to learn, grow, and possibly even shift a perspective or two, because no one has the corner on understanding any topic, and because no one has the other’s lived experience.

The goal is not to force, badger, demean or guilt people to seeing things your way – no one benefits from that at all – no one wins in the end.

In my opinion, the goal is to get closer to seeing things God’s way – this is where the real win is.

Not policy agreement.
Not political alignment.
Not shared race or ethnicity.
Not “being woke.”

If we can figure out what God has to say about something, and agree that what he is saying is true, oh what an experience that would be.

And we ALL need more of that, I don’t care who you are.

In this episode, Sam and I are exploring the topic of how to have safe conversations about hard things. I admittedly gleaned all types of golden nuggets from a new podcast love called Human Hope by Carlos Whittaker in Episode 9: How To Have Hard Yet Healthy Conversations With People You Disagree With.

We invite you into our exploration – take a listen to our conversation and let us know what you think.
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